Could The Borg Assimilate Jesus?

[JonA]

It's nearly Easter... so.

Since religion isn't banned!

And because Liz dared me

But it asks a serious question. Would a religious icon with the strength of mind of Jesus be able to affect being assimilated?

[Liz Not Beth]

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[JonA]

If I get banned I'm dragging both you and Brian (by guilt of association) with me!

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[JonA]

Not exactly purist Trek but fun none-the-less.

[Liz Not Beth]

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[JonA]

Its spelt HUMOUR!!

Bloody colonials!

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[Lt Cmdr Matt]

I'm sorry guys, I overreacted.

[Don Mappin]

After speaking with Matt (who agreed), I'm going to reopen this thread after reviewing it.

[First of Two]

**What follows is what I was actually writing when I found out the thread had been closed. I don't think it's 'sour.'**



This raises, actually, a fairly interesting question: Could Will alone allow someone to resist assimilation?

I figure the Biblical Jesus gets a by on this. If he can conquer leprosy and cast out Demons, he could cast out nanoprobes. It's all part and parcel with being a Godlike being.

IIRC, Q's cannot be assimilated. Probably holds true for all like species, even the ones able to take humanoid form : Organians, Douwd, etc.

OTOH, what about a guy like "Flint" from "Requiem from Methuselah?" Effectively immortal?

I say, at least a partial "yes," because part of that immortality seems to be a hyper-powered immune system, keeping one safe from plagues and the like.

In fact, that's one of the upcoming surprises I have for my crew when they go off to fight the Borg in a few sessions. They'll have picked up an amnesiac NPC who's an immortal. (And who, if all goes to plan, will use his power and high will to temporarily resist assimilation long enough to foil the Borg)

And all because one day, a line popped fully formed into my head:

"Captain? I think... he's assimilating them. "


Normal people, though, are probably S.O.L.

[Dan Gurden]

Who would have thought it, we have gone off-topic into serious game discussion.*

I think Willpower can help though.

Maybe not to a level that blocks assimilation (at least in a normal human), but in delaying the control and fighting the 'voices' and keeping control of your own body despite its best efforts to serve the collective.

Dont get me wrong, this is not a long term issue, we would be talking seconds to minutes at the most. But the end result would be full assimilation, with the added horror that being too successful wil cause the collective to close of the bodies concious mind, leaving you a fully concious being trapped within the shell of a Borg Drone, with your sanity slowly chipped away by each atrocity... Y'know, one of those super-critical successes that you really-really dont want.

But with a strong enough will, you can keep your own identity, and enough control perhaps to allow one last heroic action to save your crewmates before the collective has you.

* maybe we ought to move the game discussion over to another thread to attract that group and allow the silly?

[Highway Hoss]

My thinking is that a lot of it has to do more with biology than with willpower...if a body is vulneable to the nanoprobes, than willpower alone may not be enough.

One character I was thinking of on this subject is the Character "Rogue" from the X-men; she has been described as having a chaotic, scrambled genome...also she can asborb the monds and physical abilities of others....so I was thinking what would happen if the Borg tried to assimilate her?

Personally I think it would not work..Rogue abosrbed a biomechanical being a long time back, so I believe her system would be immune to the nanoprobes...in fact to paraphrase First of Two She could end up assimilating them....

[Owen E Oulton]

"I figure the Biblical Jesus gets a by on this. If he can conquer leprosy and cast out Demons, he could cast out nanoprobes. It's all part and parcel with being a Godlike being."

If we assume that the Biblical descriptions are accurate, not only would He be immune (as you note, He cures leprosy with a touch, restores possessed individuals to their right mind and additionally can raise the days-long dead) but in fact the very act of attempting assimilation (i.e. bodily contact) may well de-Borg the drone touching Him. This level of passive power is demonstrated by the woman who touched His hem and was cured. Now, some hold that it was her belief that cured her, but the documentary evidence could go either way.

[Sundowner]

Stepping back a post or two to the willpower comment,

Could the willpower of the assimilated drone be a deciding factor on wether or not the person could access Unimatrix Zero.

If a person's subconscious is strong enough, then the force of their will can let them access Uni0 when regenerating, however, the borg hive mind takes over when the drone is reactivated.

Now, to go back to the biblical jesus figure, if his will is superhuman, perhaps if by some twist of fate (or twisted narrator), he is assimilated, then perhaps while assimilated he could retain his individuality and become a link to the hive and Uni0, thereby creating a major disturbance in the collective.

Just a thought.

Sundowner

(PS, thanks guys)